Interests

[wolfwings]

altermeta, anime, bdsm, bicycles, bondage, breasts, cleavage, computers, dragons, fetishes, furries, furry, furry pr0n, ironclaw, jadeclaw, kuvrahk, kuvrahks, kuvvy, maelstrom lrp, moulin rouge, piercings, programming, quake, role playing games, rpgs, rping, shadowrun, slash, snow, swimming, tattoos, video games, yaoi, yiff, yiffing, yiffy art, yuri, zoids

Comments

[otana.livejournal.com]

I understand the point you are making, however none of your interests are remotely linked to the threat at hand. This kind of kneejerk removal only confuses people to the real action that's going on. It is important that people know WHY journals are being deleted and WHICH interests are being targetted, so that they can react and complain accordingly. By simply removing all interests, it confuses the situation and may panic people into thinking that all interets are under fire, and then the true threat becomes blurred. We need to attack WoI for their misguided methods and appeal to Six Apart to reinstate those innocent journals, but I don't believe that randomnly removing interest lists helps the situation at all.

It is late and I am having a hard time explaining what I mean coherently. I am just very concerned that being militant and attacking the wrong enemy here (and assuming that all interests are now under threat) will create even more hysteria than is currently going around and will leave people confused as to what is really going on. Hence why I simply linked to the banner with a convenient list of links that already explain the situation far more coherently than I ever could.

[ruggels.livejournal.com]

Apparently the Europeans are more clued in on what acutally happened. This Link may explain it.

http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/

Scott

The simple fact...

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

...is that a feature of LJ, the Interest-stuff, is currently being used as a basis to suspend journals. These suspensions are being explained as unrevokable, based on a list of keywords that LJ/SA will not explicitly confirm. This means, to me, that all keywords are possibly under fire. We cannot confirm with 100% safety that any keyword is safe, as even something as mundane as 'tossed salad' has very vile meanings among some groups.

Because there is no way to confirm if any interest-keyword is 100% safe for eternity, there is no safety in using any interest-keywords in the built-in system. Therefor, I blanked it.

Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

As another LJer on my friends list explained (but I won't link to) they are using highly advanced data-warfare techniques. If you visit their site from a journal entry, they will examine that journal entry by whatever means they can, among other things. Basically, they're performing this attack on LJ/SixApart with a fairly high degree of technical and sociological skill.

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[ruggels.livejournal.com]

Interesting.. and very clever.

The pendulum is swinging such that they are passing bills that make a second incident of molesting a child a death penalty crime. (Oklahoma, and Texas). That and German Prosecutors, who's basic law prohibits virtual representations of sex acts with minors has riled Second Life. (which is an issue as SL seeks to put servers in Europe to better serve r their larger (than the US and Canada) user base, and would therefor be subject to EU law).

Now for all that is said, I don't have a lot of pity for folks that fetishize illegal acts, though. The free spech argument for me fails in the face of the fact that the internet is allowing individuals with problems, to network into virtual communities large enough to feel "normal" rather than seek treatment.

Scott

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

At the same time, they've cast such a wide English-specific net across the international LiveJournal site, they've gotten things such a community that mentioned Lolita as an interest and had it in the name. Normally, no big deal, right? Except it was a foreign-language community discussing a novel by the same name.

Or a roleplaying journal for a fictional 'villian' in a multi-hundred-journal-miniverse that listed 'kidnapping' and 'incest' as an interest. But never touched on any of the topics in the actual entries or stories posted there. They'd merely filled out the 'interest' field to provide a bit stronger backstory for the character, but had no interest or intention of ever RPing such elements directly.

This is less about 'free speech versus porn' and more about how a vigilante group is trying (and apparently managing to be successful) at force-feeding English-keyword censorship of the harshest nature (Get tagged? Lose your entire journal forever, you can't get the comments back, only the actual posts, no recourse. That is LJ/SixApart's current stance.) on a website that has a very large non-English-speaking contingent. And many of the keywords are harmless in many of the other languages the site is used in, and in fact makes tools available for ease of use in those very same languages.

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[ruggels.livejournal.com]

Interesting. though what I heard was that if you clicked the link to the group from an LJ post that it would trigger a response from them, and They would "data mine your journal, and report back. Hmmm.

Scott

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

drewkitty has a public entry explaining things much better than I ever would be able to, as well.

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

[ruggels.livejournal.com]

Hmm....


Wow..

Scott

And taking the LJAbuse Boilerplate reply literally...

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

...even listing gay marriage could theoretically apply, if not in this batch, in a future batch.

I feel the thinking involved by LJ/SixApart in this situation is along the same line of that which causes a (perhaps well-meaning) person to get fired for causing $50k in damages, and thus, they have earned all the lumps they're getting for bowing down to the threats from W4I targetting LJ/SA's advertisers primarilly.