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Date: 2007-05-30 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruggels.livejournal.com
Apparently the Europeans are more clued in on what acutally happened. This Link may explain it.

http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/

Scott

Actually they're the ones that caused it.

Date: 2007-05-30 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
As another LJer on my friends list explained (but I won't link to) they are using highly advanced data-warfare techniques. If you visit their site from a journal entry, they will examine that journal entry by whatever means they can, among other things. Basically, they're performing this attack on LJ/SixApart with a fairly high degree of technical and sociological skill.

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

Date: 2007-05-30 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruggels.livejournal.com
Interesting.. and very clever.

The pendulum is swinging such that they are passing bills that make a second incident of molesting a child a death penalty crime. (Oklahoma, and Texas). That and German Prosecutors, who's basic law prohibits virtual representations of sex acts with minors has riled Second Life. (which is an issue as SL seeks to put servers in Europe to better serve r their larger (than the US and Canada) user base, and would therefor be subject to EU law).

Now for all that is said, I don't have a lot of pity for folks that fetishize illegal acts, though. The free spech argument for me fails in the face of the fact that the internet is allowing individuals with problems, to network into virtual communities large enough to feel "normal" rather than seek treatment.

Scott

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

Date: 2007-05-30 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
At the same time, they've cast such a wide English-specific net across the international LiveJournal site, they've gotten things such a community that mentioned Lolita as an interest and had it in the name. Normally, no big deal, right? Except it was a foreign-language community discussing a novel by the same name.

Or a roleplaying journal for a fictional 'villian' in a multi-hundred-journal-miniverse that listed 'kidnapping' and 'incest' as an interest. But never touched on any of the topics in the actual entries or stories posted there. They'd merely filled out the 'interest' field to provide a bit stronger backstory for the character, but had no interest or intention of ever RPing such elements directly.

This is less about 'free speech versus porn' and more about how a vigilante group is trying (and apparently managing to be successful) at force-feeding English-keyword censorship of the harshest nature (Get tagged? Lose your entire journal forever, you can't get the comments back, only the actual posts, no recourse. That is LJ/SixApart's current stance.) on a website that has a very large non-English-speaking contingent. And many of the keywords are harmless in many of the other languages the site is used in, and in fact makes tools available for ease of use in those very same languages.

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

Date: 2007-05-30 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruggels.livejournal.com
Interesting. though what I heard was that if you clicked the link to the group from an LJ post that it would trigger a response from them, and They would "data mine your journal, and report back. Hmmm.

Scott

Re: Actually they're the ones that caused it.

Date: 2007-05-30 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] drewkitty has a public entry explaining things much better than I ever would be able to, as well.

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