Also... VPNs are officially a pain in the ass under 64-bit.

[wolfwings]

After trying in vain for a couple months to get the VPN to work's Cisco 5500 working under Gentoo, I had a reason to nuke-and-pave my install. So I decided to try Ubuntu since I'd heard it 'just works' there. That part was, mercifully at least, true. And yes, installing packages in seconds instead of minutes was nice to be able to just dump thirty packages.

But I've had to manually tweak and repair more files under Ubuntu 8.10 to correct fuck-ups by Ubuntu's updater, and even had it corrupt my filesystem just using the reboot menu option, that I officially don't trust it any further than I can throw it. Get back here, Gentoo! Time to just knuckle down and set up a proper CHRooted 32-bit and no-multilib 64-bit install this time... *starts backing up all the Steam games to avoid re-downloading them for once*

Comments

[david-bane.livejournal.com]

Yeah, really, stay away from 8.10 for anything more than casual.

For one, they REALLY screwed up graphic cards this cycle. I mean, /bad/.

KDE side, especially.

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I noticed that too. And I was only using XUbuntu, so it's not like I had a whole heckuva-lot loading like KDE or Gnome auto-widgets to give a lot of chances for things to fuck up.

[david-bane.livejournal.com]

It's very weird how different 8.10 comes out on the different managers. KDE really just messed up my computer, it lasted all of an hour before I threw my hands up, and if I had lunch, my stomach.

Gnome? Smooth as silk.

Honestly, if I have a problem I'll take it. Tabbed browsing is /so worth it/.

[vyl.livejournal.com]

You get the hand of Ubuntu's updater, eventually :> The only time I've completly destroyed it was a failed attempt to upgrade to a newer distro.

I run ubuntu on my router and centos on my server. Conveniently this means that whatever I can't get to work on one, I can usually do on the other.

I really should backup the router.

That's the thing...

[wolfwings.livejournal.com]

...I did NOTHING but install a base XUbuntu install, install the 'restricted' driver for my NVidia card and the firmware file for my wireless card, and update daily to the newest package versions. NOTHING else. And it still corrupted my FILE SYSTEM with random inodes getting pointed together to the point I had to manually fix the bastard from a boot-CD to back up my files because even a manual fsck wouldn't repair it enough to mount.

There's something NASTY in Ubuntu 8.X in regards to my system, and I'm not the only ThinkPad T61p user that's seen it, apparently.

So, back to Gentoo. At least the package manager has never corrupted a system and made it unbootable on me yet, but Ubuntu did in less than 2 weeks.