I voted for him. My mistake.

[wolfwings]

Someone that's worked in this country for a decade, payed their taxes, is flying home in a couple weeks because nobody can hire them because they've been unable to be allowed to immigrate.

It disgusts me that this happens, while those that bum-rush across the border by any means they can and disregard our laws entirely are now being given a free pass.

Both aspects disgust me, that they both in effect mean the same thing: It doesn't pay to even try to obey the immigration laws in this country anymore, a country that is one of the most immigrant-based countries of a large size I know of, second only to Australia.

No, we can't afford to actually 'secure our borders' like people keep preaching, I hold no illusion on that. And deporting them doesn't slow anything down, if anything I'd be all for imprisioning them for 30 days before deportation just to delay the flow of them back in and impact the money going back out to discourage things.

The core problem to me is simply the unfairness that someone perfectly willing to pay taxes and obey the laws of the land is banned from working here, but those that flaunt our laws and flip the bird to us, get in and get work.

Unless you can justify why my friend I've known for years is having to fly home after living in this country for a decade working at a single job for the majority of that, but was unable to immigrate despite their proven work ethic and ability and willingness to obey our laws and regulations, don't try to convince me that this ruling is a good one. Save your typing. I'll leave comments enabled for now though.

Comments

[uplinktruck.livejournal.com]

Yes I read it. No question about it, the article you linked details a system gone awry. But I can't help but wonder if you read it. The article clearly states he told the ICE agent that he was Mexican.

I ignored that article because it has zero to do with the Arizona law. As near as I can tell, Lyttle never set foot in Arizona. If he had set foot there, it still wouldn't matter because the law was not in effect at this time.

It is too bad you feel that way about the police. They are not all bad. It is sad that the officers you dealt with are so narrow minded and dealt with you so badly. As a former paramedic, I can assure there is an enormous amount of gallows humor that goes with both both jobs. It is inexcusable these officers chose to drag out in front of you. That humor is a safety valve to be kept among the family. Without it many would crack up, maybe even suicide.

I spent a great deal of time working in New Orleans right after Katrina. I now know from personal experience what happens when you and everyone else knows that dialing 911 will no longer bring help. That gives you an entirely different view on police officers and what they really do for this society.

But none of this has any bearing on the Arizona Immigration law. There are going to be good cops, average cops and bad cops. The bad ones are going to be bad ones regardless of what laws are or are not on the books. The Arizona law is a good one and will in fact go a long way toward bridging the gap left by Federal dereliction of duty along the southern the border.

I'm beginning to repeat myself here so you get the last word. Thank you for the debate.

[finnkveldulfr.livejournal.com]

Way too many police officers are hopped up a**holes with a badge on a power trip. There are way too many examples of bad cops in front of society every day. There are way too many ways for Law Enforcement officers to abuse the new Arizona law, and for all the good cops that may or may not exist in Arizona, there are going to be a lot of police officers out there who *ARE* going to abuse the law to the maximum extent. Your rose-colored glasses view of police isn't going to change that.

Furthermore-- hmmmmm.... guess I just didn't have my eyes open when I spent 3 months in SE Arizona (based at Ft Huachuca, but spent plenty of time out in the local communities-- Sierra Vista, Bisbee, Tombstone, etc-- VERY close to the US/Mexico border), but I just didn't see or hear about problems with illegal immigrants out there.