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[livejournal.com profile] otana is now suspended from LiveJournal? Um... WTF? =O.o=

Yes, that is all, I'm just... baffled, what the hell happened?

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Date: 2003-07-23 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chouzaru.livejournal.com
because she was advertising drawing for money on her user info.

She'll be back later today.

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Date: 2003-07-23 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonasbagel.livejournal.com
Wait up, wait up. Advertising commissions is against the rules?? O_O;

*tweaks his userinfo a bit*

Damn. :(
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
First off, yes, this is a huge-ass over-coloured version of one fragment of their Terms of Service but it illustrates a point quite nicely. Mentioning auctions on FurBid, or linking to your website that offers commissions or even web design would appear to fall under this clause, if you happen to get a stick-in-the-mud reviewer at Abuse that looks at your complained-about LJ or entry. And if it dings this clause, they can just boot you off LJ, not just suspend your account and give you a chance to fix it. :-P Yeah, I'm a little peeved, just making sure folks are warned at this point. =-.-=
  1. MEMBER CONDUCT

    You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages or other materials, whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from which such Content originated. LiveJournal.com does not control Content posted via the Service and, as such, does not guarantee the validity of such Content. You also understand that by using the Service, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Should Content be found or reported to be in violation with, but not limited to, the following terms, it will be LiveJournal.com's sole discretion as to what action should be taken.

    You agree to NOT use the Service to:

    1. Engage in commercial activities within LiveJournal or on behalf of LiveJournal.com without prior approval. This includes, but is not limited to, the following activities:
      1. Displaying a banner that is designed to profit you or any other business or organization; and
      2. Displaying banners for services that provide cash or cash-equivalent prizes to users in exchange for hyperlinks to their web sites.

    If any user is reported to be in violation with the letter or spirit of these terms, LiveJournal.com retains the right to terminate such account at any time without further warning.

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Date: 2003-07-23 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] final-heaven.livejournal.com
Tch, that's fucked up. >:( Give her a big hug for me Matt. =)

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Date: 2003-07-23 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chouzaru.livejournal.com
Will do ^_^

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Date: 2003-07-23 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vege-chan.livejournal.com
That sucks. I'm just glad she isn't suspended for an indefinite amount of time. *relieved sigh*

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Date: 2003-07-23 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fareme.livejournal.com
So we can't even link to art auctions in public entries? o.o

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Date: 2003-07-23 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manawolf.livejournal.com
That's what I'm wondering.
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
Because she mentioned doing commissions in her userinfo.

Yes, because she said she did commissions, regardless of type or specifics, apparently. It was a complaint against her userinfo listing specifically though, so I do not know if this applies to links to auction sites in a journal entry, or even mentioning accepting commissions in a journal entry.

But mentioning that you'll accept payment for art is apparently verboten, at least in your userinfo specifically, though with how vague the ToS is, and how narrow the complaint was against Otana, I'd recommend setting all links to FurBid or similair friends-only.

Amusingly, placing a PayPal "donate" button is perfectly okay, as Otana thought that was the problem, but it actually wasn't a problem apparently. :-P So accepting money at random is fine. Giving things to people is fine. Accepting money for things you give back in return, and mentioning this fact on LiveJournal, is what I'm taking to be verboten. So, to be blunt, treat any auctions or art sales like prostitutes have to treat their chosen profession in most of the United States. Double-talk and caution.
From: [identity profile] manawolf.livejournal.com
Maybe it was the fact that it was accepting money for something related to Livejournal services? As in, LJ icons?
From: [identity profile] wolfwings.livejournal.com
This is why I filed the support request to try to get more information, which points back at this journal entry also. :-)

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Date: 2003-07-23 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amarafox.livejournal.com
That's really screwed up..

Ugh, guess I'll have to make my Auction posts friends only *grumble* Which i hate.

I wonder why they let something like drawfurfood exist, then?

meh

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Date: 2003-07-23 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahiruko.livejournal.com
What the HELL? That doesn't make any sense at all!

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