First off, yes, this is a huge-ass over-coloured version of one fragment of their Terms of Service but it illustrates a point quite nicely.
Mentioning auctions on FurBid, or linking to your website that offers commissions or even web design would appear to fall under this clause, if you happen to get a stick-in-the-mud reviewer at Abuse that looks at your complained-about LJ or entry. And if it dings this clause, they can just boot you off LJ, not just suspend your account and give you a chance to fix it. :-P Yeah, I'm a little peeved, just making sure folks are warned at this point. =-.-=
MEMBER CONDUCT
You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages or other materials, whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from which such Content originated. LiveJournal.com does not control Content posted via the Service and, as such, does not guarantee the validity of such Content. You also understand that by using the Service, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Should Content be found or reported to be in violation with, but not limited to, the following terms, it will be LiveJournal.com's sole discretion as to what action should be taken.
You agree to NOT use the Service to:
Engage in commercial activities within LiveJournal or on behalf of LiveJournal.com without prior approval. This includes, but is not limited to, the following activities:
Displaying a banner that is designed to profit you or any other business or organization; and
Displaying banners for services that provide cash or cash-equivalent prizes to users in exchange for hyperlinks to their web sites.
If any user is reported to be in violation with the letter or spirit of these terms, LiveJournal.com retains the right to terminate such account at any time without further warning.
Yes, because she said she did commissions, regardless of type or specifics, apparently. It was a complaint against her userinfo listing specifically though, so I do not know if this applies to links to auction sites in a journal entry, or even mentioning accepting commissions in a journal entry.
But mentioning that you'll accept payment for art is apparently verboten, at least in your userinfo specifically, though with how vague the ToS is, and how narrow the complaint was against Otana, I'd recommend setting all links to FurBid or similair friends-only.
Amusingly, placing a PayPal "donate" button is perfectly okay, as Otana thought that was the problem, but it actually wasn't a problem apparently. :-P So accepting money at random is fine. Giving things to people is fine. Accepting money for things you give back in return, and mentioning this fact on LiveJournal, is what I'm taking to be verboten. So, to be blunt, treat any auctions or art sales like prostitutes have to treat their chosen profession in most of the United States. Double-talk and caution.
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Date: 2003-07-23 03:31 am (UTC)She'll be back later today.
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Date: 2003-07-23 06:56 am (UTC)*tweaks his userinfo a bit*
Damn. :(
Technically, a LOT of things could/would fall under that clause...
Date: 2003-07-23 01:10 pm (UTC)You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages or other materials, whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from which such Content originated. LiveJournal.com does not control Content posted via the Service and, as such, does not guarantee the validity of such Content. You also understand that by using the Service, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Should Content be found or reported to be in violation with, but not limited to, the following terms, it will be LiveJournal.com's sole discretion as to what action should be taken.
You agree to NOT use the Service to:
If any user is reported to be in violation with the letter or spirit of these terms, LiveJournal.com retains the right to terminate such account at any time without further warning.
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Date: 2003-07-23 07:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-07-23 08:00 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-07-23 10:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-07-23 01:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-07-23 04:29 pm (UTC)According to Otana, the reason her journal was suspended was as follows:
Date: 2003-07-23 08:12 pm (UTC)Yes, because she said she did commissions, regardless of type or specifics, apparently. It was a complaint against her userinfo listing specifically though, so I do not know if this applies to links to auction sites in a journal entry, or even mentioning accepting commissions in a journal entry.
But mentioning that you'll accept payment for art is apparently verboten, at least in your userinfo specifically, though with how vague the ToS is, and how narrow the complaint was against Otana, I'd recommend setting all links to FurBid or similair friends-only.
Amusingly, placing a PayPal "donate" button is perfectly okay, as Otana thought that was the problem, but it actually wasn't a problem apparently. :-P So accepting money at random is fine. Giving things to people is fine. Accepting money for things you give back in return, and mentioning this fact on LiveJournal, is what I'm taking to be verboten. So, to be blunt, treat any auctions or art sales like prostitutes have to treat their chosen profession in most of the United States. Double-talk and caution.
Re: According to Otana, the reason her journal was suspended was as follows:
Date: 2003-07-23 08:56 pm (UTC)Re: According to Otana, the reason her journal was suspended was as follows:
Date: 2003-07-23 09:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-07-23 05:59 pm (UTC)Ugh, guess I'll have to make my Auction posts friends only *grumble* Which i hate.
I wonder why they let something like drawfurfood exist, then?
meh
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Date: 2003-07-23 06:16 pm (UTC)