Welcome to the Draft in 2005, just after the election, and Sweden-style required-military-or-related service for all those 18-26 if current bills in Congress go through. And guess what? They've already enacted extra blocks between US<->Canada to make moving to Canada an invalid way to avoid being drafted.
rose_quoll? You're not the only one thinking about Australia more actively now, hon. I'd wager a LOT of people are now.
The Draft and un-retiring.
Date: 2004-05-20 10:53 pm (UTC)There's discussion and actual stuff going on where retired military are being called up again. An acquiantance who worked on the retired Apache helicopter recieved notice that he would be called back up to active service if they pulled the Apache out of mothballs.
I hate to be this blunt...
Date: 2004-05-20 11:35 pm (UTC)Welcome to Vietnam, part duex. Unfortunately, I have no doubts that the noisiest complainers will be the first drafted, since they have many years of improved tracking technology to track folks that attempt to dodge said draft-call to continue protesting.
I'm not going to take any chances though... I don't care what it takes, if this comes to pass... I'm gone until I'm past the point of being drafted, just in case I'm not invalidated. I don't agree with this 'war' that will never, ever end, even if we do win in whatever countries we're in now. Nor will I fight for this so-called war on terrorism.
Invalid?
Date: 2004-05-20 11:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-20 11:44 pm (UTC)I love youuu! *snugglekissnuzzle*
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Date: 2004-05-20 11:45 pm (UTC)I'm not coming back here. I hate this place, have for years, and the feeling is culminating.
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Date: 2004-05-21 12:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-21 12:11 am (UTC)(*grin*)
Re: Invalid?
Date: 2004-05-21 01:11 am (UTC)Second off... I had epilepsy when I was younger, enlisted, 'forgot' to tell them that until short after they gave me my 'show up now to go to boot camp' date, THEN told them and got a summary discharge. As far as I know, I'm invalid for military service ever again, as I scored so high on their tests it's silly. Basically, I aced the basic test, then a secondary test, and finally the crypto test, and had to go through the stupidity of enlisting and getting discharged to get them to stop calling me every single fucking day to enlist. They were as bad as some telemarketers.
Re: The Draft and un-retiring.
Date: 2004-05-21 05:13 am (UTC)US Citizenship.
Date: 2004-05-21 05:19 am (UTC)I had a HS teacher who came to the US as a war bride from WW2. She has dual citizenship with France. However, the US doesn't recognize her French citizenship, while France doesn't care that she's a citizen of both countries.
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Date: 2004-05-21 05:20 am (UTC)I wouldn’t qualify myself, but I certainly do not feel others should be drafted, unless the US itself was attacked by another nation, like in 1941.
I certainly think drafting women is wrong, call me old fashioned but the idea of forcing women in harms way, in combat roles is seriously twisted. Imagine someone’s mother being made to be soilder….
Re: Invalid?
Date: 2004-05-21 05:21 am (UTC)Re: The Draft and un-retiring.
Date: 2004-05-21 05:25 am (UTC)What does bother me, however, is that those vets who are still around, and were promised things like free medical and perscriptions and dental when they enlisted, even after they retired, are having those promised benefits taken away, or eroded. WW2 vets and their spouses were supposed to get free 'scripts and medical and dental...well, the dental benefits are completely gone now, and they want to charge a co-pay now for 'scripts.
Actually, it doesn't just bother me, it offends me.
Re: US Citizenship.
Date: 2004-05-21 05:34 am (UTC)Re: US Citizenship.
Re: US Citizenship.
Date: 2004-05-21 06:12 am (UTC)Re: US Citizenship.
Date: 2004-05-21 06:24 am (UTC)Pheraps if I visited AU, I'd want to live there to, or NZ. I certainly want to go visit.
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Date: 2004-05-21 07:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-21 08:30 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-21 08:51 am (UTC)http://www.livejournal.com/users/la_pistolera/71114.html (http://www.livejournal.com/users/la_pistolera/71114.html)
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Date: 2004-05-21 09:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-21 02:36 pm (UTC)As for the "No president would ever sign the bill" argument, obviously these people have never heard of George "Dubya" Bush...
Why do you think they're waiting untill AFTER the election to put this bill through? And why has the SSS recieved so much more $ recenly?
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Date: 2004-05-21 05:08 pm (UTC)As for my personal views on the whole Iraq situation. I supported the removal of Saddam, but nothing further than that. I am definitly not a pacifist; I own many guns of all types and am a strong beliver in self-defence and armed civilians, but I will not fight for any cause I do not believe in.
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Date: 2004-05-21 05:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-05-26 12:41 am (UTC)